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	<title>Comments on: Novels are digital art too</title>
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		<title>By: Infovore &#187; Links for October 16th through October 17th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infovore &#187; Links for October 16th through October 17th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Novels are digital art too &#171; Alex McLean &quot;A great deal of what is called `digital art&#8217; is not digital art at all, and it seems many digital artists seem ashamed of the digital. &#160;In digital installation art, the screen and keyboard are literally hidden in a box somewhere, as if words were a point of shame. &#160;The digital source code behind the work is not shown, and all digital output is only viewable by the artist or a technician for debugging purposes. &#160;The experience of the actual work is often entirely analog, the participant moves an arm, and observes an analog movement in response, in sight, sound or motor control. &#160;They may choose to make jerky, discontinuous movements, and get a discontinuous movement in response, but this is far from the complexity of digital language. &#160;This kind of installation forms a hall of mirrors. &#160;You move your arm around and look for how your movement has been contorted.&quot; (tags: art literature novels digital culture ) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Novels are digital art too &laquo; Alex McLean &quot;A great deal of what is called `digital art&rsquo; is not digital art at all, and it seems many digital artists seem ashamed of the digital. &nbsp;In digital installation art, the screen and keyboard are literally hidden in a box somewhere, as if words were a point of shame. &nbsp;The digital source code behind the work is not shown, and all digital output is only viewable by the artist or a technician for debugging purposes. &nbsp;The experience of the actual work is often entirely analog, the participant moves an arm, and observes an analog movement in response, in sight, sound or motor control. &nbsp;They may choose to make jerky, discontinuous movements, and get a discontinuous movement in response, but this is far from the complexity of digital language. &nbsp;This kind of installation forms a hall of mirrors. &nbsp;You move your arm around and look for how your movement has been contorted.&quot; (tags: art literature novels digital culture ) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the digital element carries no information for me.&quot; Yes, they do -- just not what the author intended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the digital element carries no information for me.&#8221; Yes, they do &#8212; just not what the author intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Bullock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post. I don&#039;t think analog and digital are mutually exclusive -- an object can be simultaneously analog and digital depending on the resolution of perception. Taking your analog interactive art example, if we &#039;zoom in&#039; far enough we see it is digital &#039;underneath&#039;; but I guess that&#039;s your point: why hide this digital-ness behind an analog skin?

I wonder if this has something to do with our ability to decode digital information? I can decode the latin alphabet and so it is effectively digital. However, if I look at text that uses an alphabet I don&#039;t understand -- say runic --  I perceive it as entirely gestural and the digital element carries no information for me.

So I wonder if exposing linguistic computation in digital art has a similar effect. If I understand the language, it is effectively digital because I interpret it as such. But perhaps the decontextualised and re-formatted latin alphabet in the context of computation -- to those who don&#039;t understand it, becomes symbolic or gestural and the digital component loses its (intended) meaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. I don&#8217;t think analog and digital are mutually exclusive &#8212; an object can be simultaneously analog and digital depending on the resolution of perception. Taking your analog interactive art example, if we &#8216;zoom in&#8217; far enough we see it is digital &#8216;underneath&#8217;; but I guess that&#8217;s your point: why hide this digital-ness behind an analog skin?</p>
<p>I wonder if this has something to do with our ability to decode digital information? I can decode the latin alphabet and so it is effectively digital. However, if I look at text that uses an alphabet I don&#8217;t understand &#8212; say runic &#8212;  I perceive it as entirely gestural and the digital element carries no information for me.</p>
<p>So I wonder if exposing linguistic computation in digital art has a similar effect. If I understand the language, it is effectively digital because I interpret it as such. But perhaps the decontextualised and re-formatted latin alphabet in the context of computation &#8212; to those who don&#8217;t understand it, becomes symbolic or gestural and the digital component loses its (intended) meaning.</p>
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